Where will she spend eternity?

I Googled "babies in hell" - here are some of the links that pop up:

Do Babies Go to Hell When They Die?
Do All Infants Go to Heaven?
Do Babies Who Die Go to Heaven?
Does Jesus Send Non-Christian Babies to Hell?
Do babies go to hell because of original sin?
What happens to the babies who used to be in limbo?
The Loss of Infants: What is their Destiny?
Do the souls of aborted babies go to heaven?
What Does the Bible Say About Children Going To Hell?

If you think you will find the answer to the above questions clearly spelled out in the bible, you are mistaken.  You, dear believer, will be left to fend for yourself, struggling to find an answer that is even remotely clear.  You will search in vain between the covers of your bible for a hint of comfort as you contemplate the destiny of your deceased baby.  You may find consolation from the mouth of a lying minister, but if you have one of those rare honest ministers who prefers to let the bible speak for it's self when presented questions of profound theological import, all he will be able to say is this - The best you can do is hope that Jesus will be good and fair to your precious baby who is now silently waiting her appointment to the grave.

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God decides who will become a Christian:

1 Peter 1:2
. . . who have been chosen and destined by God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to be sprinkled with his blood...

Acts 13:48
When the gentiles heard this, they were glad and praised the word of the Lord, and as many as had been destined for eternal life became believers.

Romans 8:29-30
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn within a large family. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Ephesians 1:4-5
. . . just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will...

John 6:44
No one can come to me unless drawn by the Father who sent me, and I will raise that person up on the last day.

I am sorry Christian, but if you are honest you cannot ignore the fact that these verses are in your bible.  They have meaning.  Yes, you can quibble over what the authors meant when they wrote those verses, especially if you find them objectionable, but they are quite clear to me and they are quite clear to all of the Christians who follow the traditions of John Calvin.

Please agree that the above verses at least seem to be saying:

* God chooses who will become Christian and spend eternity in heaven - and God also chooses who will not become Christian and will spend eternity in hell.

* Those he chooses for heaven he will draw them, influence them, and they will become believers, and he does this by his "irresistible grace", through his Holy Spirit.

* Those he has destined to hell, he simply ignores - he does not draw them to himself, does not influence them to become believers.

* If he doesn't draw them, they cannot become believers, and are therefor destined for hell, and there is absolutely nothing that they can do to change that - it is a guarantee that they will arrive in hell when they die.

Do I have this correct my Calvinist friends?

Now imagine how many millions (billions?) of people who were not among the "elect", and died in childhood, died in their infancy, or died before they were even born.

  

Since they were not among the elect, they went straight to hell and have been suffering this torment for years, hundreds of years, or even thousands of years - and this is just the beginning of their eternity.  

Their eternity is to burn in hell - as a child, as a baby - who was not chosen by God to be a Christian.  They were born, according to Robert G. Ingersoll, as ". . . kindling wood for hell."

Just walk through any cemetery (I do it all the time) and you will find numerous headstones for children who died, quite obviously, before they ever had a chance to commit a sinful act or think a sinful thought, and for many, if not most, the God of the Calvinist sent those little ones directly to their eternity - a burning hell.

Imagine - a tiny baby or a young child, sickly, struggling to breathe, only to succumb to her illness at a very young age. She survived the trauma of child-birth but after a few weeks or a few years, her body just gave up - and then - she wakes up in hell where she will spend eternity. Why? Quite simple - that is the wish of the loving God that the Calvinists worship.

This is the doctrine of predestination, the doctrine of election!  

Based on this doctrine, it only makes sense that many of those who were not predestined to everlasting life in Heaven, would unfortunately die as children, infants, or would die in their mothers womb.  And since they were already predestined for hell before they were even conceived, they are at this moment, suffering the eternal consequences of God's decision.

 

NOTE - Please don't think that the supposed "Age of accountability" will save your little one - it won't.  

None of the verses above that clearly indicate that some are chosen for heaven, and some are NOT, take age into account at all.  This "age of accountability" doctrine is made up.

. . . just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world . . .

If God chooses some to be Christians before the foundation of the world, and chooses some to die as infants and go directly to Heaven, it only makes sense that those who were chosen for hell before the foundation of the world, chosen for damnation before the foundation of the world, would die as young children or babies, and are spending eternity burning in hell, as children, as babies at this very moment.  It doesn't matter whether a person dies at 90, 50, 10, 5, 1, or were still born - if I am understanding the bible correctly, their destination was chosen by God before the foundation of the world.

Apologetics - the fine art of explaining why the Bible does not actually mean what it says, or says what it does not actually mean.

~unknown

Christian, If this pique's your interest and you don't like what you are reading and are thinking, "surely my God wouldn't send babies to hell", please don't ask a fellow Christian for clarity.  Don't seek comfort from your minister  - that is NOT how you find clarity.  If you want to know what the bible says, just read the bible for yourself and when the bible seems to be saying that God destines some to heaven and some to hell - before the foundation of the world . . . 

. . . take it to mean what it says.

Romans 9: 14-24

What then are we to say? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! For he says to Moses,  “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

So it depends not on human will or exertion but on God who shows mercy. For the scripture says to Pharaoh, “I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I may show my power in you and that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then he has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the heart of whomever he chooses.
You will say to me then, “Why then does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?”  But who indeed are you, a human, to argue with God? Will what is molded say to the one who molds it, “Why have you made me like this?”  Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one object for special use and another for ordinary use?  What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience the objects of wrath that are made for destruction, and what if he has done so in order to make known the riches of his glory for the objects of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory — including us whom he has called . . .

I am so glad that I got out of Christianity when I did.  

bob

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